will '09 bring us more expensive 2 wheeled cars?

I was absolutely flabbergasted that an American bike mag would pick a real and affordable motorcycle as the Motorcycle of the Year. But the market is still stuck on incredibly expensive and complicated ego pumps, aka 2 wheeled cars. Will 2009 be the beginning of a new thinking in motorcycling...will people who actually have to work for a living begin to see more quality affordable motorcycles or more of the same crap built exclusively for  wealthy and or desperate exhibitionist? Will motorcycling continue to pander to the wealthy few, while only occasionaly tossing a bone to the rest of us?  

TxRdr:
I was absolutely flabbergasted that an American bike mag would pick a real and affordable motorcycle as the Motorcycle of the Year. But the market is still stuck on incredibly expensive and complicated ego pumps, aka 2 wheeled cars. Will 2009 be the beginning of a new thinking in motorcycling...will people who actually have to work for a living begin to see more quality affordable motorcycles or more of the same crap built exclusively for  wealthy and or desperate exhibitionist? Will motorcycling continue to pander to the wealthy few, while only occasionaly tossing a bone to the rest of us?

you are so right,bring back some old ideas.belt drive is good.interchangeble wheels,fuel injection is nice but expensive.better quality is a necessity like hiding the electric welded seams on gas tanks.more powder coating.and what did you say you will have to raise prices.perhaps i shouldnt have said anything.go figure.ive said too much already.bye  

TxRdr:
I was absolutely flabbergasted that an American bike mag would pick a real and affordable motorcycle as the Motorcycle of the Year. But the market is still stuck on incredibly expensive and complicated ego pumps, aka 2 wheeled cars. Will 2009 be the beginning of a new thinking in motorcycling...will people who actually have to work for a living begin to see more quality affordable motorcycles or more of the same crap built exclusively for  wealthy and or desperate exhibitionist? Will motorcycling continue to pander to the wealthy few, while only occasionaly tossing a bone to the rest of us?

thumper4:
you are so right,bring back some old ideas.belt drive is good.interchangeble wheels,fuel injection is nice but expensive.better quality is a necessity like hiding the electric welded seams on gas tanks.more powder coating.and what did you say you will have to raise prices.perhaps i shouldnt have said anything.go figure.ive said too much already.bye

Have you been drinking again?  

I actually read the Sept issue of Motorcyclist. When I saw that the BMW R1200GS was picked as best adventure bike I howled with laughter. I don't think anyone from this magazine has ever actually ridden one off the pavement. Only a wealthy fool would think of taking one f those rediculous things into the wild. Go to the ADV rider website and hear the real stories of that bavarian charade. Get a freakin' clue Motorcyclist...look at the prices of the bikes you fawn over. In your tiny jaded little world maybe everybody is rich...but the rest of us have to deal with reality. Get a clue you rich boy toy suck ups! Why don't all you show some balls by standing up to the bike makers and tell them off. Tell them until such time as they come back to reality their bikes will be panned as Paris Hilton enginnered poser toys.  

TxRdr:
I actually read the Sept issue of Motorcyclist. When I saw that the BMW R1200GS was picked as best adventure bike I howled with laughter. I don't think anyone from this magazine has ever actually ridden one off the pavement. Only a wealthy fool would think of taking one f those rediculous things into the wild. Go to the ADV rider website and hear the real stories of that bavarian charade. Get a freakin' clue Motorcyclist...look at the prices of the bikes you fawn over. In your tiny jaded little world maybe everybody is rich...but the rest of us have to deal with reality. Get a clue you rich boy toy suck ups! Why don't all you show some balls by standing up to the bike makers and tell them off. Tell them until such time as they come back to reality their bikes will be panned as Paris Hilton enginnered poser toys.

Wow dude, take your ritalin,
BMW GS has wone ADv tour bike many times, ANyone with a clue- yes a CLUE would know that bike as the hands down winner, i have know idea what your talking about, but who is going to buy a suzuki drz 400 and travel across the country and that thing, you;d be a fool, i bet you wouldn't make it across texas east to west on that bike in a day, but you could on the GS and continue on in and htru new mexico and a good part of Arizona, its ADVENTURE TOURING not off road, it is not meant to be ridden the BAJA 1000, c'mon, i have a Triumph tiger that did very well off road as well, you need to keep in check your arguement, know what your saying before you say it, you have probably never did ANY seat time on a GS, they are wonderful Machines, And the Adventure GS is even better off road than the Standard, yes they make two different models, oh but you knew that RIGHT! Price, um ya, welcome to the 21st century, where a sport bike is 11000.oo and a dirt bike is 7,000.00 and the best adventure touring bike starts at 14,000.00 and goes as high as what 20k not bad considering it will handle most riders in the mountains on road or off, and you can ride there from either coast and not need another vehicle to take you there.
Dan
Hanover, MD  

You're spelling is atrocious, and your reasoning idiotic, just like the BMW.  

Don't you hate it when you criticize someone's spelling, and then you spell something wrong in the process? Happens to me all the time... I believe it's "your" not "you're."    

My spelling was correct, it was the grammar I fouled up. That doesn't change the fact that the BMW is a charade.  

being from Texas, i am amazed you complain about pricing.
But i guess you must live in the desert where they do not get radio or TV signals, and are just out of date.
This is not a lesson in grammar, i figure my two fingers do foul up my spelling from time to time, but i move on, but when you bad mouth something you have no idea of what your talking about, i must step in to educate the uniformed, You must be uniformed due to the fact that you probably couldn't afford the insurance on anything larger than a 1982 cb 125 so with that, save your money, motorcycling does not get any better on German machines, i have not yet ridden a duc, but i am sure if i feel a need to insert my testy's up my hiney, that will be the first place i look.
Listen, Until you have owned these bikes, you have no word, you have become a Troll, because it is not what you have, you bad mouth it with no real experience. It is ok, those who know continue to buy BMW's, with most models sold out each year, they must be doing something right?
But, you need to express yourself and that is ok, but tell us of your motorcycle, and be careful i may own one of those as well, so know your facts.  

Read your other post and practice what you preach. I am financially well off because I don't waste my money on expensive charades. The BMW is an expensive charade. You don't seem to know the difference between a fact and an opinion and I bet you can't even find Texas on the map.  

then if your so well off why do you complain of expensive bikes, i do not understand, and yes i do know what i am talking about, you on the other hand have no clue because you have never ridden anything but a Japanese bike, dude, get off your japanese horse and try something different, with all that well off money you could surely afford a NICE bike, i know i can ride just about anything i want, and i choose the best, at this point NO-ONE makes a better Luxury Tourer than BMW, the Goldwing is close but it can't handle for anything, in comparison to the BMW, IMHO
like it or lump it, you still havent owned a BMW, and The GS is the Best Adv. Tourer on the market PERIOD, and yes they are going to continue to get more expensive.THOSE ARE FACTS!
They do make a 650 enduro for about 8 large but that is quite expensive  

expensive is the word i use to describe what i think i see when i go to the american bike dealerships. when i go to the "jap bike" dealerships i see affordable. after an import tax these bikes are still half of the price of a harley. ref: http://www.motorcycle.com/specs/cruiser/2009/
i also see a bike that doesn't break down on the road as often as american bikes. i see fewer electrical problems particularly with honda. why can't the american bikes work that well? i own two honda bikes and i beat the crap out of both of them pretty often and they have NEVER quit. i keep trying to break it or blow it up and it just won't quit. i do however see lots of american bikers using the tool bag on the side of the road especially on a long haul. when i read of the great stories of travel from some of the other veteran travelers out there i always hear about the breakdowns of the american bikes. ref  http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/originals/soa/#Nav/RalliesRidesRuns/BestRides
wtf folks?  i would love to walk away from my imports because i am a veteran and i understand the anti import philosophy of the old ww2 fighter, pearl harbor survivor, "anti-jap" rhetoric blowhard etc.. my wallet size just doesn't allow me enough money to buy into it. Also, sometimes i ride alone from state to state at times, and i think working on a bike on the side of the road sucks because i've done it with other riders who had problems. Harley did make something that sounds cool, rides rough, and feels unique but does it last long term error free? most don't if you really hammer down on them according to nearly every single american bike owner or mechanic, past or present, i have encountered and so where is the american pride in making inferior machines and then charging double?  how proud would you feel pushing american as the "jap-bike" rides by, trouble free? whether its a race or i'm just trying to get somewhere, broke is the worst place to be especially on a desolate ride from dallas,tx to albequerque,nm.  expensive isn't the only way to describe some of these american '09 bikes-overpriced, undependable, and overall dissapointing are a few and until they change that i have little choice because i'm not rich.  if i were rich enough i'd not go get one of those fancy shiny chick magnet look how big my new prideprick is made on tv machines that i was scared to ride more than 300 miles a year anyway. you can't tell me that harley isn't making enough money pandering to the ego-deficient because in the last three years i've seen a dozen new harley bike dealerships open in just my part of texas. you want me to ride american, be competitive to say, honda, in price and product and then you can have my hard earned dollars just so my bike says american on the tank when i roll cause frankly, i don't really care about the name on my shoes, my jeans, my shirt, or my bike as long as it doesn's fall to crap at the first test of durability. is american pride so far ahead of american engineering that some maunfacturers don't care about the price? maybe not cause somebody is paying for these bike sales houses popping up everywhere.